Even for skiers that are accomplished on open water, it takes a few sets (A set being 6 to 8 passes) to makes heads or tails of the course. I am a little confused what the site you talked to is wanting from you. They want to tow you 2 or 3 sets on open water before letting you look at buoys?

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No, I would be fine with that.  They want to tow me for an entire day and have me come back another day and then try the buoys. 
Thanks for the other info as well.  So, typically for people new to the ski course they ski pass it as much as 6-8 time before they are ready to go around the first buoy or two?  did I get that right?

thanks,
Bruno

h20dawg79 wrote:

I'd call back and talk to Head person at that facility. It just doesn't sound right to me. Sounds like a break down in comunications some how... At the very least, one could start running the Mini course and then gradually move to a gateless 15 off pass @ 28 mph...

I mean, come on! -You are the paying customer... (what the heck happened to; "the customer is always right" or "Meeting the Customers needs")

Good Luck!

Thanks for you response.  I was beginning to wonder if I was being unreasonable.  Anyhow, I didn't get into a dispute with the guy.  I clearly expressed interest in attempting the course and his response was clearly that he didn't want me running the course on the first day out, so I politely told him I'd get back to him, but since he is not offering what I want, I won't. 

Slightly changing topic you mentioned trying 15 off @ 28 mph.  How different would that be from 15 off at 32 or 34?  The reason I ask is because I have a 68" ski and I weigh 210 and find that I'm sinking in and skiing with more difficulty, when below 32 MPH.  Who knows, somehow, somewhere, I may be actually able to try this, so it would be good to have the best foot going forward when I did.

Cheers,
Bruno

thanks for all the info everybody

terrythornton wrote:

Try Dream Lake Ski Ranch in Kaufman   (972) 452-3488

YES! YES! YES!
Thanks a million, called and I will be there Sunday morning.  Now we'll see just what happens

h20dawg79 wrote:

SS-skier wrote:

terrythornton wrote:

Try Dream Lake Ski Ranch in Kaufman   (972) 452-3488

YES! YES! YES!
Now we'll see just what happens

Go get 'em! We'll be looking for a Full report on Monday morn.!!! We all want to find out if you get bit by the Bug. I gotta warn ya though, there is NO cure for DSS...

I DID IT!  I DID IT!....
well I tried to do it at least, it's going to be a while before I can make it through the course, even with 15 off a@ 28MPH, but I really enjoyed trying it and am looking forward to trying it again.

Cheers,
Bruno

h20dawg79 wrote:

Way to go Man!

Do they have a Mini couse on that Course?

If by chance you are really sore (in places you didn't know you had) today and tomorrow, -this is the norm. while trying to get through the course in the beginning. Even more so at 28mph w/o a wide ride ski. But, it goes away with practice and improved course technique.

They didn't have a junior course there but there is one at another place that I am supposed to try to ski tomorrow.  (if it works this time, something has gone wrong at this other place 3 for 3 times, we'll see if the 4th attempt to ski there is a charm). 

On my first run when trying to make it around the buoy's, after clearing the first buoy, I missed the second and didn't make it to the other side until the 4th.  But then in the subsequent runs, I was advised to just shadow the buoys and from how that went, I was told that I would be able to clear the junior run at 15 off at 28Mph.  But I was also told that it would do me better to shadow the buoy's on the regular course and work on my turns and form.  There were a few other things that I was told would improve my skiing that I hope to try next time although I do wonder how my balance will work if I try changing these things as it will make my position feel less natural. 

I normally keep the rope handle about 24 inches straight out from my chest.  I have been told that I need to somehow pull it in and hold it a couple of inches up and a couple of inches out from my waist.  I have been told that I need to switch the position of my hands on the rope so that I am holding it like I would hold a baseball bat.  I've been told that I need to let go of my outside hand as I approach the buoys.  And I've been told that my worst skiing characteristic is that I bend my back forward while skiing. 
Even though this was the first time skiing a course most of this I had heard before but it's not easy to change as it's what comes natural to me.  But I now have that much more reason to try to correct this.

Honestly I don't feel sore from yesterday's runs at all but after all I only did one set.  I probably should have done another set.

Cheers,
Bruno

Shadowing is GREAT! I suggested the Mini course B/C you could begin to run the course at a faster speed, which will allow the ski to operate much better while you focus on turning @ the designated turn points.

Shadowing is also a great practice tool. As, you can Shadow very narrow and slowly begin to widen out until you are smoothly turning right at all the Buoys!

Get some Video of yourself and you will progress at least 50% faster... ( seeing is believing! we all "feel" much different then we actually Look!)

Run as many sets as you can, Winter is on the way!

Jasen wrote:

If you are serious about getting into skiing - you should look up Princeton Lakes.  /

What's the best way to go about getting water rights out there?