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#1 Wed, Jun 16, 2010 10:54 AM

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Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

Our new ski club has been working with the parks for about 3 months on getting a course back in our small lake.

The course is going to go in 5-8' of water, mucky bottom.

I'm going to make the final decision soon on weather to go with a cable course or individual anchors.

My biggest concern is that somebody can wreck the whole cable course if they get their anchor caught or just want to vandalize it.

The cost is the same, so it is not really a factor.

Comments? Does anybody maintain a course on public water?

Tim

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#2 Wed, Jun 16, 2010 11:34 AM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

Cable for the guides. Anchors with subs for the buoys best way all around

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#3 Wed, Jun 16, 2010 1:00 PM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

my course is a main steel line, pcv pipes. then tied cement blocks under each bouy. Been in 8 years on a public lake , could use a little straightening now, but it has sat on the bottum with no probs. Pretty hard to brea k the cable. In  6 to 10 feet of water.


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#4 Wed, Jun 16, 2010 1:31 PM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

Call Ed at EZ-Slalom - he can tell you pretty much anything and all you need to know. 

1-800-216-4461


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#5 Wed, Jun 16, 2010 4:33 PM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

We use a standard portable with poly mainline and it stays in all summer.  Been using the same course for 15 years.  The irony is that most damage comes from our own members!

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#6 Wed, Jun 16, 2010 7:25 PM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

We have cable mainlines and pvc out to the bouys.  Our situation is almost exactly like yours muddy bottom 5-8 feet of water and we haven't had any problems and the course has been in for years.  In the winter we just take the bouys out with floats at the entrance gates.

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#7 Thu, Jun 17, 2010 7:08 AM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

We have a public course as well...  Its a cable mainline course however ours is in almost 80 feet of water so slightly different situation than you're in.  You're going to want to keep it as low as possible so people don't get into the mainline or arms...  Use good subs, should be fine.


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#8 Thu, Jul 22, 2010 7:09 AM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

We have had the insta-slalom course for 6 years and have had really good luck.  We had fisherman get their anchors caught on it, cut bouy lines, tie onto pvc, etc.  Our main anchor is in 75' of water, the adjustable anchor is in 35' of water and the course floats in a range of 15' to 8' of water.  You just have to keep an eye on it.  If people hook to it go out there and tell them nicely that it's worth $3,000 and if they wouldn't mind hooking too it.  We've even taught people to ski just to teach them about it.  I would recommend short buoy lines 4' to 5'.  People can see the pvc if their anchor catches it plus it floats much straighter with short lines.  We've had pvc kink or break and it's really easy to replace.  We've made sleaves for quick repairs but I'd recommend ordering a few extra parts from insta-slalom.  Also, put 2 zip ties on each bouy, one through the hook and one through the metal loop.  You'll save lots of bouys by doing this, otherwise they pop off easy.  Lastly, we never takes our out.  We take off all the balls in the fall and let it sink.  A couple of our skiers are divers so they raise it in the spring.  We have it marked on a gps system.  This all sounds like alot of info but we are on a busy public lake and it's worked quite well!!  Good luck!!!

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#9 Thu, Jul 22, 2010 8:39 AM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

kylegansel wrote:

Our main anchor is in 75' of water, the adjustable anchor is in 35' of water and the course floats in a range of 15' to 8' of water.

Wow, what a range.  Weird bottom with 75' at the anchors and 15' in the course.

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#10 Sat, Jul 24, 2010 1:01 PM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

We have gone to plastic coated cloths line cable and aluminum crimps because of the amount of abuse our course takes from tubes and wave action.  We loose less buoys this way.  Yes we still loose buoys.

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#11 Sun, Jul 25, 2010 9:42 AM

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Re: Public Slalom Course: Cable or Individual Anchors

a Portable course if you get much fluctuation in water levels.  How clear is the water?  I have tried to find a sub buoy in murky water not fun, after a while they usually turn the same color as the water.  much easier to follow an arm out to the end if you can't see.

Todd

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