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#1 Mon, Nov 2, 2009 12:41 PM

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Ski Log Scores

Welcome to November!

I am really excited about where the site is headed. I've been compiling a lot of good ideas over the last month or so... we'll be changing everything in 2010 if all goes according to plan.

Sooooo who does NOT want their ski log scores submitted to a ranking list here on the site ? ? ? ?

Starting off slow now... but this will turn into something a lot bigger, for sure.

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#2 Mon, Nov 2, 2009 3:39 PM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

Wade,  what will ski log scores really show?  Those scores are highest of set but not necessarily in any order.  For example, I can make 1 at -28 but I haven't completed a -22 !?!?  Just thinkin'...

Deke

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#3 Mon, Nov 2, 2009 4:39 PM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

I'm game.....

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#4 Mon, Nov 2, 2009 6:12 PM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

Sure


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#5 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 2:24 AM

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I have no problem with that.
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#6 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:22 AM

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Sure, go for it!
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#7 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:48 AM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

Is that going to be a ranking list for the site or how would it work? Just curious? Go for it! It would be cool!!!

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#8 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 10:18 AM

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i'm on board,  thanks for putting it together Wade.   so will you start it 2010 with 09 logs or will it just be for new logged sets after you get it up and running?


Chris

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#9 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 11:19 AM

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Im good with it.

MC

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#10 Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM

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Can you set it up so people can opt out?  Some of us may be embarassed! wink

I'm not saying I would opt out myself... I don't even have a ski log.......... yet.

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#11 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 3:01 PM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

im in but i agree with buddy some people might what to opt out later on


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#12 Sun, Nov 8, 2009 7:41 PM

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Sounds good to me.

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#13 Tue, Nov 10, 2009 7:56 AM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

Do it!!


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#14 Tue, Nov 10, 2009 8:26 PM

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Hey Wade what a great idea... I am in for sure, hey it will make us be serious about every set big_smile  Looking forward to next years season....


Observe, Listen, Learn, Share and Grow, but most of all have fun~

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#15 Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:06 AM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

H20SkiGirl wrote:

Hey Wade what a great idea... I am in for sure, hey it will make us be serious about every set big_smile

Exactly!

It's on the plangenda. I'll give this tidbit out about the list already... Parrish is ranked #1, Marcus Brown 2nd. I'm 16th.

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#16 Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:14 AM

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Cool Stuff!!!

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#17 Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:51 AM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

Wade, What is my rank?


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#18 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 5:16 AM

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Sounds great, but my next log will be down there in February, see u then:lol:


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#19 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 7:55 AM

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#20 Sun, Nov 22, 2009 10:37 AM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

Deke wrote:

Wade,  what will ski log scores really show?  Those scores are highest of set but not necessarily in any order.  For example, I can make 1 at -28 but I haven't completed a -22 !?!?  Just thinkin'...

Deke

Great point Deke. I think the goal would be to complete your 22 off pass. When you fill out your "best score" if you didn't run 22, then 1@28 wouldn't be your best score in a tournament-style set.

So we're looking for the best balance of training effectiveness and a fun way to encourage some friendly competition. More thoughts always welcome.

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#21 Mon, Nov 23, 2009 6:31 AM

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Re: Ski Log Scores

WadeWilliams wrote:

Deke wrote:

Wade,  what will ski log scores really show?  Those scores are highest of set but not necessarily in any order.  For example, I can make 1 at -28 but I haven't completed a -22 !?!?  Just thinkin'...

Deke

Great point Deke. I think the goal would be to complete your 22 off pass. When you fill out your "best score" if you didn't run 22, then 1@28 wouldn't be your best score in a tournament-style set.

So we're looking for the best balance of training effectiveness and a fun way to encourage some friendly competition. More thoughts always welcome.

Yeah, I get it.  I have to admit though that I only go "tournament style" for the first set of a day.  The rest of the time is spent practicing and/or trying to learn technique.  And I believe that is true for most people at my level who are really trying to learn and break out of the low end.  Maybe it would be good to separate the tournament style ball count from whatever you want to call the other.  They're both important and tracking the latter helps you see your progress in getting to your next hurdle even though it may have taken 2 or 3 tries.

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#22 Mon, Nov 23, 2009 8:27 AM

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Deke wrote:

Maybe it would be good to separate the tournament style ball count from whatever you want to call the other.  They're both important and tracking the latter helps you see your progress in getting to your next hurdle even though it may have taken 2 or 3 tries.

For sure. I'm still mulling over the options for this. If it's a true tournament set, there is already a pull-down in the log for "tournament" and "practice".  The way I want to move is to encourage some interleague competition. So there are a few issues that come up, when you have all different varieties and levels of skiers skiing different amounts throughout each week of the summer. I want to see teams and weekly tournaments. But then there's also the problem of sandbagging. That'd be a total waste of time to log a lot of sets when it's going off your average score -- but if you just click the "tournament" button to log your score, then I think we will pick up a few people who aren't as genuine as the rest of us.

I hear what you're saying about one tournament set a day. Personally I haven't even been doing very many tournament sets -- I did a lot of 32 offs this year. So my average looks a little lower than it should. As a suggestion for advancing your techniuque, I would recommend cleaning your 22 off passes really smoothly before shortening it up to 28. The better your 22s, the better your 28s. Same thing I've been doing this year with all my 32s.

When we get to the point that we'll be scoring on a weekly basis, I'm thinking that we're going to pick a random set and take your score from that set versus your average score. So if you ski 6 buoys better than your average, your score would be 6. Team scores would be the average of all the skiers on the team.

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#23 Tue, Nov 24, 2009 6:27 PM

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This is cool Wade - I like it!  I think it is motivating to see this and the ideas on where this could go sound like a lot of fun.

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